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Typology

How an Enneagram 4 and Enneagram 8 Balance Their Relationship, feat. Makoto and Haejin Fujimura

Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

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4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Are an Enneagram 4 and an Enneagram 8 compatible? While both bring a fierce intensity to the world, they each bring different gifts to the table.

Helen Palmer describes their match up, as “a partnership of intensity acted out by fight, flight fascination, and flare. Each feels somewhat awed by the other. Eights feel themselves to be coarse and blunt in comparison with the elegant and socially adept romantic. From their side, Fours can be utterly magnetized by the socially shameless boss. It can be a real cliffhanger.”

In today’s episode, artist and author Makoto Fujimura and his wife, Haejin enter the Typology studio to talk about the importance of establishing their friendship first, their different approaches to battling darkness, and how they are putting together a partnership that is greater than it’s individual parts.

You’ll learn:

  • What they admire most about each other

  • How they navigate and balance their individual intensity

  • Ways they’ve learned to utilize their individual gifts to honor their partnership

Makoto Fujimura is a world-class contemporary artist whose process driven, refractive “slow art” has been described by David Brooks of New York Times as “a small rebellion against the quickening of time”. Robert Kushner, in the mid 90’s, written on Fujimura’s art in Art in America this way: “The idea of forging a new kind of art, about hope, healing, redemption, refuge, while maintaining visual sophistication and intellectual integrity is a growing movement, one which finds Makoto Fujimura’s work at the vanguard.”

Haejin has extensive litigation and courtroom experience defending and prosecuting over 400 civil lawsuits in both federal and state courts. She is admitted to practice in NY, NJ and PA. She has represented manufacturing, insurance, software, e-commerce, franchise, real estate, hotel, restaurant, design, automobile, and transportation companies, nonprofit organizations, and individuals in matters involving contract, partnership dispute, directors/officers liability, corporate governance, business formation, trademark, personal injury, general/premises liability, and subrogation. She also has represented various companies as Outside General Counsel.

Haejin is actively involved in the legal and local communities and serves on multiple charities. In 2015, Haejin was invited by Ministry of Health and Welfare of South Korean government to speak on U.S. nonprofit corporation law. She has also spoken at various community and legal organizations to encourage the youth and promote professionalism.

To learn more about Mako or to find the exact date and location of his new exhibit coming to Nashville this fall, follow him on social or visit his website at https://makotofujimura.com.

https://makotofujimura.com - [email protected]

YouTube - @makotofujimura3020

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Facebook - @makotofujimuraart

Twitter - @iamfujimura

Haejin Shim Fujimura

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey folks, welcome to Typeology, the show on which we explore the story of you through

0:09.5

the lens of the Any Graham. My name is Anthony Skinner, your co-host, and I couldn't be

0:14.2

more thrilled to share this interview with you today. Today's guest is a long time friend

0:23.0

of the show, and he is such a beautiful soul. I was brought to tears multiple times throughout

0:29.2

this conversation. I'm so grateful for this guest, and I'm grateful for his life and the

0:37.9

life he brings through his art, talking about Makoto Fujimura, better known as Mako, world-class,

0:46.2

artist, painter, eloquent speaker, and beautiful writer and author. We're grace to have his

0:55.3

wonderful wife, Hedgin, with us today, who is a force as well. Mako is a four, Hedgin is an eight,

1:02.8

and we get into their worlds and to Mako's art and to their relationship with each other,

1:10.3

and how they flow together as a four and an eight. We talk about Ian's relationship with Mako,

1:15.6

as two fours. If you're not driving today while listening, what I would encourage you to do is go

1:21.6

over to Makoto Fujimura, that is M-A-K-O-T-O-F-U-G-I-M-U-R-A.com, and just look at some of his art while

1:33.8

you're listening to this podcast. That would be the perfect way to experience this. Again, we're just

1:38.8

so thrilled. I'm glad you're here. That's it for me, Anthony Skinner, and without any further ado,

1:45.1

now here is the host of our show, Ian Crone.

1:58.0

Hey, typology tribe. Yes, it is your friend, Ian Morgan, Crone, speaking to my good friend,

2:06.8

Anthony Skinner. Woo-hoo! And more importantly, Anthony, today's a big day. Oh, we've been waiting for

2:12.7

this one for a long time. Oh, a long time. Because today, I have one of my oldest friends in the

2:17.2

world here, the painter, the author, the Renaissance man, Makoto Fujimura, and his beautiful wife,

2:26.7

Hedgin Fujimura, is in the studio as well. Mako is an Enneagram for Hedgin, is an Enneagram

2:33.8

eight. Woo-hoo! Eight. You're going to talk all about that relationship, the dynamics of it,

2:39.5

and we're also going to talk about our friendship of decades, a couple of decades now.

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