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Beg to Differ with Mona Charen

How Americans Can Cease Being Rich

Beg to Differ with Mona Charen

The Bulwark

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Economist Noah Smith delves into the myth of the "hollowed out" middle class, the folly of protectionism, and more. He and Mona differ on Trump's handling of Covid and . . . American chocolate.

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0:00.0

Welcome everyone to the Mona Charin Show. Delighted today to welcome Noah Smith. He's an economist,

0:08.2

a blogger. Can you still say blogger? Yeah, you know, poster, blogger, podcaster, all around

0:17.7

educator of the American people about economic matters.

0:22.6

So Noah, great to see you.

0:24.8

Thanks for coming.

0:25.9

Great to see you.

0:26.8

And yes, I do self-identify as a blogger.

0:29.3

Excellent.

0:29.9

Excellent.

0:30.4

Okay.

0:31.5

So you had a great post this morning that is all about like the broader understanding of where we are.

0:41.6

So we're going to talk about tariffs.

0:43.2

We're going to talk about trade.

0:45.7

But I want to begin by pulling back a little bit and just doing a little basic economics,

0:53.2

if you don't mind.

0:55.5

Are you familiar with a show called Tudor Monastery Farm?

0:59.6

I am not.

1:00.7

Please tell me about it.

1:01.9

Okay.

1:02.5

So Tudor Monastery Farm, I think it was a BBC production many years ago.

1:07.2

So it's a little bit old now.

1:09.3

It doesn't matter because it's one of those

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