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How Alphafold Has Changed Biology Research, 5 Years On

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🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Google's tool for predicting how proteins “fold” turns 5 this year. How is it fitting into biological research—and where is it going?

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Irafledo.

0:06.1

You're all familiar with proteins, right?

0:08.8

They're made of amino acids. They do many important jobs in the body, and they can take millions of different shapes.

0:16.4

And depending on their structure, they do radically different things in ourselves.

0:21.9

And for a long time, predicting those shapes for research was considered a grand biological challenge.

0:28.8

But in 2020, Google's AI lab, Deep Mind, released an early version of Alpha Fold.

0:35.8

That's a tool that was able to accurately predict

0:38.4

many of these structures necessary for understanding biology, predicting in a matter of minutes.

0:45.0

In 2024, the AlphaFold team was awarded a Nobel Prize in Chemistry for the Advance. That's

0:51.5

how important they deemed it. Five years later, after its initial release,

0:56.2

we're checking in on the state of that tech and how it's being used in health research

1:00.4

with one of the lead scientists responsible for developing AlphaFold. John Jumper, a scientist at Google

1:07.2

Deep Mind and co-recipient of the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.

1:12.8

John, welcome to Science Friday.

1:14.8

Oh, it's great to be here.

1:16.2

It's nice to have you.

1:17.3

All right, let's begin at the beginning.

1:19.5

Tell us what exactly protein folding is, why it's important to understand how it works.

1:26.9

Well, so one of the really important things to say is,

1:30.9

you know, the cell has a lot to do. It's in some sense a factory or a machine. It has many,

1:36.9

many parts. And those parts are all encoded in the DNA, right? We talk about DNA as the instruction

1:43.4

manual for the cell. And one of the big

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