Can Animal Super-Agers Teach Us Their Secrets?
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🗓️ 19 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's Flora Lichten, and you're listening to Science Friday. |
| 0:07.0 | Today on the show, looking for the fountain of youth in the animal kingdom. |
| 0:12.0 | It would be like an Olympic athlete, basically, that runs casual triathlons every day, living in an insanely long time like to 400 years. |
| 0:23.3 | Some animals have a very different relationship to aging than we do. They don't get cancer, |
| 0:29.6 | they never go through menopause, and they live these absurdly long lives. For instance, |
| 0:35.2 | one bat species can live for over 40 years. That may not sound like a long |
| 0:39.8 | time, but that's like nine times longer than you'd expect based on their size. For comparison, |
| 0:46.2 | if we aged like these bats, we'd be living for hundreds of years. And these bats aren't the only |
| 0:52.3 | super-agers. There's a whole menagerie of them. So what's their secret? |
| 0:56.9 | And can we learn anything from them that might help us live longer, healthier lives? |
| 1:01.7 | We're talking to two scientists, Dr. Vera Gorbinova, a professor and biologist at the University |
| 1:06.4 | of Rochester and a trailblazer in this field who's been studying aging for over 20 years. |
| 1:11.6 | And Dr. Juan Manuel Vasquez, a biologist and assistant professor at Pennsylvania State University |
| 1:17.0 | studying how super aging evolved mostly in bats. |
| 1:20.7 | Vera, Manny, welcome to Science Friday. |
| 1:22.7 | Thank you for having us. Hello. |
| 1:24.8 | Yeah, thank you. |
| 1:26.1 | Let's start with these bats. Tell me a little bit more |
| 1:28.7 | about them and what makes them unusual. Now, bats are very amazing. There are thousands of |
| 1:35.1 | species of bats, but among them, there are many bats that, as you just mentioned, live much |
| 1:41.8 | longer than would be predicted based on their size, |
| 1:45.7 | because generally animals that are larger, they tend to live longer. |
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