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We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Jyszytski,

culture editor here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the show at radioatthefederalist.com,

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Today we're joined by Fox and Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade. He's also the host of the Brian Kilmeade

show, which is nationally syndicated. I'm sure you're familiar with it and a New York Times

Messling author here to talk about his new book called The President and the Freedom Fighter.

Brian, welcome to Federalist Radio Hour. Thanks to Emily Fabian, I appreciate it.

Absolutely. This book has a fascinating topic, which is the relationship between Abraham Lincoln

and Frederick Douglass in their battle to save America's soul as you talk about in the subtitle.

Tell us why you wanted to write this book right now. Well, I thought that number one,

sadly, I knew race would still be in the news. I would hope it wouldn't be red hot like it was

when I was writing most of it because that's when the Black Lives Matter stuff was happening

when people were tearing down statues of all our founding fathers, which we're trying to build up

and sell not to use propaganda, but to use backs. When you're taking that Jefferson and ripping down

Washington and taking Lincoln's name off our elementary school, I thought, man, there might not be

many people patriotic people left that want to hear this story, but I do want to do, I can't do

a story about Lincoln. I feel like his biographies have been done too well, too long by too many people.

Frederick Douglass also some great work. David Blake just pumped out that book of the year,

but I thought this, what if I talked about what they meant to the country, how they were in perfect

people, but especially when it comes to Lincoln, never had a slave, he wasn't part of the slave

culture, was for liberty for all, but if you asked him, or Blacks and whites equals, should there

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