Welcome to Resilience Development in Action with Steve Bisson.

This is the podcast dedicated to first responder mental health, helping police, fire,

EMS, dispatchers, and paramedics create better growth environments for themselves and their teams.

Let's get started.

Okay. teams. Let's get started. Well, hi, everyone and welcome to resilience development and action. I'm so happy to have you

here, but more importantly, I've got someone I heard speak. And of course, you know, we start interviews and we started chatting and chatting. I'm like, this is all good stuff. We've got to record it. But when you really are personable and I really enjoyed him presenting, what, about a month ago, a month and a half ago around here. And I was happy to have him on. So, and of course, now I'm putting you on the spot. I'm going to pronounce your last name properly. I'm going to screw it up anyway, but that's okay. I always say to people, it's my second language. I'll live with myself. Joe Smarrow. Perfect. Steve, you nailed it. Welcome to resilience development in action. Thank you, brother. Super stoked to be here, and I appreciate you sharing your audience with me.

So, brother.

Super stoked to be here, and I appreciate you sharing your audience with me.

So, yeah, I can't wait to dive in and see what we're going to talk about.

I think that we're two peas in a pod in some way.

I know I'm coming from the civilian side, but I definitely felt that we had a good connection because we're going to talk about a lot of stuff

that's very interesting to me and working on the stigma not only from the mental health

perspective, but the stigma within a police department and talking about mental health, particularly

units. I can't wait to talk about that. But before we go there, I know that, you know, we

kind of met. I didn't go

see bother you because I knew you had a lot on your plate, but I text you and we exchanged a few times.

But how about you tell my audience a little bit more about yourself?

Yeah. So from New York originally, I joined the Marine Corps straight out of high school

for a specific reason

that maybe will come up later and did two combat tours to Afghanistan and Iraq and then got out,

moved to South Texas where I currently reside still, and joined the San Antonio Police Department,

spent 15 years with SAPD, and my last 11 were full time on the mental

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