Welcome back to Hot Takes and Deep Dives. This is Jess and I am here with our returning

friend. He is the empath to the stars, the empath to the housewives. He's about to be

the empath to the summer house kids. I'm here with your favorite Jamie Stein. How are

you? I'm good. How are you? Well, I mean, truthfully, we did just record three minutes and

you didn't record your side. So I'm not great. But we'll try to recapture the magic that

we had. Alright, you're exposing me. Listen, truthfully, it was only three minutes of material.

You made one funny joke that I'm going to have you repeat. Yes. But so we're not scripting

this. There's going to be like one word that's scripted. That's it. Fair enough. And now

you've outed the pro. This is like in Beverly Hills when they show behind the curtain at

the producers like Cokes and Carcel. Yeah, I mean, I'm breaking the fourth wall. So today

we're going to do a super deep dive on summer house. And not only that, we've both watched

the real world homecoming premiere. And of course, you were the perfect person to discuss

that with because we did an entire episode where you went through your career as a what

was your if you were an associate producer for four real world seasons? No, they called

it. I think they called it associate editor. And then like, but we were called on the actual

job. We were called loggers. I was a night logger. There were day loggers and night loggers.

Listen, the point is you're more invested in this shit than even the biggest fans among

us. I was in the mix. And I really, I'm of the age that really grew up with the real

world. I mean, I was 14 when the first season premiered. So it's it's it's speaking right

to me in my age group. I actually did the oh my god. I actually in 1992, I was 10 when

the real world premiered. So New York was obviously not the first one that I watched

live. I was doing the math last week. I do believe the first real world season that I

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