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It's the Media Buzz Meter with Howard Kurtz.

You know we've got a lot of play yesterday.

Fox News lands licensing deal

with popular ruthless podcast

as part of expansion of new media.

I saw this at the top of many homepages.

And look, the evolution of the Fox website has been phenomenal in the dozen years that I've been here.

And by the way, I was doing a podcast before.

It was considered super cool.

But the idea of doing a licensing deal shows you what a central place now, podcasts have come.

And a lot of news gets made on podcasts.

For whatever reason, guests, politicians, entertainers, you name it, you know, feel looser and more free to talk at some length, knowing it's not going to be a 14-second soundbite.

Now, of course, the Rufless Podcast is an all-conservative podcast, founded by Josh Holmes and others.

But I'd like to see more of it and more of a range.

In other words, not just politics.

I'm sure there are a zillion sports podcasts,

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