Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.

All right, third hour Clay Anbuck kicks off right now. Our friend Andy McCarthy joins us.

He is at National Review, a Fox News contributor, former federal prosecutor, and he is in Chicago right now watching his son play baseball.

So I'm sure Clay is going to have some baseball related

questions for you or you know little league questions Andy but I can and thank you

thank you for being with us if I can start with uh... 83 million dollar judgment

against trump we kind of want you to give us your you're just your top line

on on that and we'll get us some of these other legal things

it's just getting crazy isn't it Andy I mean 83 million dollar defamation

judgment how do you how does this stuff

how can the system be taken seriously when it's so preposterous?

Yeah, I think the best way to look at it is in the first of these two trials the issue of sexual assault was actually on the

table for the jury to consider and they found it but they awarded $2 million for it and then looked at the defamation and said 3 million more.

So it was 5 million.

So you have a case where the allegedly horrific thing that happened was at issue, the jury

found it was proved, at least to their satisfaction on a low civil standard of proof but gave a very modest award which I think is

testimony to the fact that you know it's a shaky story without a lot of factual support. Then you get to the

second trial where sexual assault is not on the table. It's simply a question of damages for defamation, including one act of defamation

that the jury actually considered but didn't have to vote on in the first trial and it's $83 million.

You don't even have like the sexual assault involved in the case.

And it's $83 million.

I'd say impossible to square, but certainly very a lot to square.

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