You're listening to Giraffe King's Network.

This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the StugatSpotcast.

You are all lucky enough to have another hour with John Skipper, who is bringing me along

for the ride.

We've got so many business sports business topics to get to.

John Skipper, the chairman of Metal Arc Media, David Samson on the host of Nothing Personal

with David Samson.

John, I don't want to waste a minute because we have a book show and I want to get right

into gambling if you're even willing to talk about gambling.

I bet I would be.

Did you rehearse that?

That was not part of right.

No, that was a, that was a, that was a, in prom too.

That was just a quick verbal parlay.

I never dreamt that gambling would take over the way it has.

When we were doing our projections and we were going out three, five, ten years, it was

basically told to us we're never going to associate with online gambling.

We're never going to allow any association with anything other than Native American casinos.

And that's only with a special meeting with Major League Baseball with permission and

there was a limit to the amount of money you could take from the casinos.

And now it has gone haywire.

Gambling and fantasy have taken over sports.

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