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This is the D.P.H. Rowan and Rothenberg podcast. Let the wild rumpets begin.

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This is D.P.A.O. and Rothenburg.

Giants get the 10th overall pick for Dexter Lawrence. Why are you wearing a Giants jersey right now? What do you mean? 65. This trade was five-way robbery. And the Giants have two picks in the top ten? If the Giants don't go at least eight and nine, I'd be highly disappointed. Harbaugh is that good.

He's going to turn this thing around and it's going to be quick. That's a reality.

This is DiPiator O'N Rothenberg on ESPN, New York, and streaming live on YouTube.

New York Sports, baby. Away we go.

Giants with what most people think is a really good trade.

Renan's going to join us at 8-10 to give us his take.

And as I'm driving back from Pennsylvania, I'm listening to the Knicks.

And not only am I listening to the Knicks and listening to them play really good basketball,

but I get Tyler and I get Monica. And guess who they start talking about during the broadcast? Tyler, Monica talking, not you. Raymond. Ray, I'm sure you heard this. They're going on and on about, oh, Ray's such a great producer. Ray, he's so wonderful. Oh, and he does the Rangers, too.

I'm like, oh, my God, I can't get away from this. They're just waxing poetic about the greatness of Ray. But the Knicks played a, that's a good game. And I want to get done with this series as quickly as possible because Atlanta wants to beat you up and wear you down. Right. And it's again, I mean, having this conversation before the series started, and think it was the afternoon you know afternoon show that was talking about which is why we brought it up i mean do you feel like you want a you know and not easy because nothing's easy right but a you know hey nicks are just the better team wrap this one up quick or do you want a no hard tough fought series and we're like no why do you hard, tough fought series? This is not a group of players that needs the experience. They've been there, they've done that. They were in the Eastern Conference finals last year. Get through them. Don't risk injury and then move on to round two. That'll be my thought. Just take care of your business, man. You're the better team here. But Jay-Lan came out and made up. I mean, that's a statement.

He's like, give me the basketball. Get out of my way. First quarter, I will dominate. And he did. He had a sensational first quarter. It's funny, I'm driving along. And Tyler and Monica start talking about Kat. And they're like, he doesn't, he's not playing well. He doesn't look right. He's very passive and it's just not a great game for him.

And then as the game went on and by the fourth quarter, he played. well. He doesn't look right. He's very passive and it's just not a great game for him.

And then as the game went on and by the fourth quarter, he played really well down the stretch of that game. Well, that was the interesting thing. So Kat after the game talked

about being a little bit rusty, right, having not played. And that's why it took him some time

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