Welcome to our hen house. This is Jasmine Singer. This is Marianne Sullivan. And this week, we will be speaking once again with Patrick Betoello, who is the founder of horse racing wrongs. And it was going to get us up to date on what's going on

in this disgusting so-called sport where the athletes have no choices as to whether to play

and are regularly killed. It's not the easiest interview to hear, but it's not all. I mean, no, that's what I was about to say. We do move, we move, you know, a lot of our interviews are like this. We do move past it at some point, and we talk about what's being done. Yeah, we don't like to dwell on all of the horrible things happening to animals, but sometimes you have to mention this was actually one of our interviews that we did with our flock. Right. For our flock Fridays, which happened the last

Friday of the month, for those of you in the flock, we invite people to join us live virtually

for our interviews. And then the Q&A is done with the flock afterwards and used as the bonus content. So it's really fun. And if you

are interested in joining the flock, go to our henhouse.org slash support. If you are in the flock

and you don't know yet about these flock Fridays, then just shoot us over an email at info

at our henhouse.org. How have you been doing? I don't know. Like, why do you ask that?

Like, you know that my answers are not usually in the positive spirit. I'm fine. Good. I'm glad

you're fine. Let's talk. It's like such an open-ended question. And also, like, I feel like I

wasn't finished with my discussion of the flock

conversation. Okay, I'm sorry. I was going to add that this isn't really that big a deal,

but I just thought, I mean, I was unsure whether to do such a difficult interview in person

and whether people would enjoy it. And I got the feeling that people really got into it.

And, you know, it just, I think horse racing is something that we all know is bad, but, you know,

some of us, including myself, don't know as much about it as we know about some other issues,

like, you know, chickens or whatever. I just find it really, really useful, even if it's not fun to find out what's happening to get that

information and feel like you're educated on a subject. And I thought Patrick was terrific. And I just

thought the flock really enjoyed it. Well, yeah, or got a lot out of it, too, I would say. Also, he's in my

sky. Yeah, totally. By the way, I want to go back to me asking you, how are you?

And your reply of, like, what a stupid question that is, which is...

I didn't say stupid.

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