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Welcome to Raising Good Humans podcast. I'm Dr. Lisa Pressman, and today I'm here with Dr. Jamil Zaki,

who's a professor of psychology at Stanford University. He is the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab, and he studies empathy and

kindness in the human brain, which is just so cool because empathy and kindness have been

on the decrease, but we know that it's so important, and especially in this age where we kind of

don't know our future and what the future holds for our children in terms of what jobs

they're going to do and what the world's going to look like through the lens of technology.

We know that kindness and

empathy are pretty important skills to grow, but we don't want to grow them in a way that is

inactive. And so we're talking about that. And we're also talking about even though there are

very real reasons to feel cynical about the world, how can we adjust to feel hopeful skepticism? So thinking like a scientist

who might be skeptical but open and hopeful versus someone who's kind of given up and is just

cynical because those associations with mental health are very,

very strong. And so these are things that are important to talk about. His research is pretty

incredible. So I really hope you enjoy this episode. And if you do, please write a little review

in Apple Podcasts. It's just so helpful to get this word out. Thank you for

listening. And as always, you can reach me on at Raising Good Humans Podcast on Instagram or my free

substack, Dr.alisa Pressman.substack.com. It sounds like, especially when you're thinking about

developing humans, even as old as

adolescents, and I know you also have research on adolescence and young adults, so I want to

hear about all of it. But is there a benefit to simply continuing to personalize people who are

not around us, like thinking about individual stories, like something that's far away

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