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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Honoring Juneteenth with Ibram X. Kendi

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2021

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In this special edition of Vox Conversations in honor of the Juneteenth holiday, Vox race reporter Fabiola Cineas spoke with author and podcast host Ibram X. Kendi before a virtual audience about the big ideas around being antiracist. They discussed where we are after a year protesting racism and police brutality, Kendi's approach to defining and fighting racism, and how we all can work to enact change. Host: Fabiola Cineas (@FabiolaCineas), Reporter, Vox  Guest: Ibram X. Kendi (@DrIbram), Author; director and founder of the Boston University Center for Antiracist Research References:  Be Antiracist with Ibram X. Kendi (Pushkin) How To Be An Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi (One World; 2019) “Juneteenth, explained” by Fabiola Cineas (June 16; Vox) The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee (One World; 2021) Dying of Whiteness by Jonathan Metzl (Basic Books; 2019)   Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by:  Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Sean Elling, regular host of Vox Conversations.

0:04.7

Today's episode is a taping of a live event before a virtual audience Vox hosted in honor

0:09.8

of June 10th, the June 19th holiday celebrating the emancipation of the enslaved in the United

0:15.2

States.

0:16.5

My colleague Fabiola Sineas was host of the event and without further ado, here she is.

0:30.2

Hi everyone, I'm Fabiola Sineas and I write for Vox about race.

0:34.9

And this week I'm your host for Vox Conversations.

0:38.0

I think a lot about whether America can ever actually be an anti-racist country.

0:44.0

There was the murder of a half dozen Asian women in a shooting rampage earlier this year

0:48.8

and recently attention is being drawn to the practice of race norming through the NFL.

0:54.3

The idea that black NFL players have lower cognitive functioning than their white peers.

1:00.4

It feels like every day now I learn about a new atrocity committed by American institutions

1:05.5

and citizens against people of color.

1:08.3

In 2020 with the pandemic freshly upon us and following the police killings of Breonna

1:12.7

Taylor and George Floyd, many Americans took to the streets and protests for months.

1:18.3

They said enough is enough in that black lives matter.

1:21.4

White people in particular pledge to be better and do better.

1:25.2

Many started on anti-racism journeys to better understand how racism is embedded in this country's

1:31.2

institutions, laws and policies.

1:34.0

They set out to look inward and figure out how they enable racism and what they can do

1:38.4

to actively fight it.

1:40.2

Now more than a year since the start of the reckoning, I want to know how can we even begin

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