Well it started innocently enough. You had one thing and then just a few more things. I'm talking about toys for your kids and

eventually you need like a full-sized U-Haul trailer to put it all in.

That was me some 30-plus years ago when we moved here to Colorado Springs.

We needed the biggest truck they had.

I only had two kids, but there was so much kid stuff.

What do you do about all that?

Well, I'm John Fuller and I'm joined by the head of our parenting department, Dr Danny

Werta.

Danny, let's talk about clutter and space. I know that

you're a very you're a neat-nick kind of guy. Oh yeah you don't have any you

don't have any club. Actually you're sort of a neat, I think you're like me. I like structure and order, but time doesn't give me the ability to manage all my stuff.

When that's so true for so many families.

Stuff just accumulates like snow here, right?

Snow.

There are moments where it snows here in Colorado and then there are moments where all of a sudden we get a dumping.

And I think families have that with clutter.

I mean I've had great intentions of clearing the house out, like every spring, let's clear things out we had a moment a

season of time we said if we buy something something comes in something needs to go

out yeah you've talked about your kids maybe you have you get a gift you have to you have to give something away.

Yeah you give something away or sell it and for some sometimes the kids would say hey I want to sell this I go great

let's sell that and now you can buy that.

Man, that was great intentions around that, but it all takes time, it takes a lot of effort

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