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Stone Choir

Honor and Loyalty

Stone Choir

Stone Choir

Education, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 585 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Hosts

Corey J. Mahler

coreyjmahler.com

@CoreyJMahler

    Woe

    aka Eschatologuy

    @treblewoe

      Honor and loyalty are closely related concepts — even nearly, but not quite, identical. In this third (and final) part of our series on honor, we address the matter of loyalty — what it is, what it is not, when it is due, and, perhaps most importantly, when it is not due. To God and nation, a man owes absolute and unconditional loyalty; to family and country, man owes a high degree of loyalty; to all else, man owes only a conditional loyalty (if any at all).

      Further, a teacher, particularly a teacher of the Word, is not personally owed loyalty because he teachers the word; rather, it is the Word to which one’s loyalty is owed. A teacher who was once true, but has become false, must be deserted and abandoned, as the higher duty to God always trumps. A corporate entity — whether a baker, a school, or a church — is generally not, in and of itself, owed any duty of loyalty at all.

      Many attempt to exploit man’s sense of loyalty, but it is incumbent on the Christian man to know to whom loyalty is owed and to whom it is not owed.

      Romans 13:7 (ESV):
      »Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.«

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      0:00.0

      The

      0:07.0

      The Welcome to the Stone Choir podcast. I am Corey J. Mahler.

      0:41.7

      And I'm still, whoa. On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be discussing loyalty.

      0:48.4

      A few weeks ago, we did an episode on honor and betrayal, and it was really functionally about betrayal and various ways that

      0:55.9

      treason either occurs or isn't present. Last week, we did an episode on honor and shame,

      1:02.1

      and this week is really going to be about honor and loyalty. And in some ways, betrayal and

      1:07.9

      loyalty are really opposite directions of the same coin. What we're doing this

      1:13.3

      week is nothing that has anything to do with binding consciences. This is basically a get out

      1:19.0

      of jail free card. This is a permission slip. We're going to focus specifically on all the places

      1:23.7

      where there is no duty of loyalty, because that's really important, too. We understand

      1:29.3

      as honest, decent men that loyalty is an important thing. You should be loyal. Like, that's a compliment

      1:34.7

      to say that someone is loyal about anything. And it's not an abuse of the word to sort of use it

      1:40.7

      casually, to say you're a loyal listener of Stonequire or you're a loyal customer

      1:45.5

      of wherever you buy your bread. It's perfectly fine. The distinction that we're making today is,

      1:52.7

      it's really kind of an ontological one. There are specific natural conditions where there is a duty

      2:00.6

      to loyalty. And absent those conditions, there's no duty.

      2:04.4

      And so even though there are things that we call loyalty, like listening on whatever podcast

      2:07.9

      as a loyal listener, doesn't mean there's any duty to do so. You are free to stop listening

      2:13.6

      at any time and you're not disloyal for doing so. If your favorite shopping center,

      2:18.9

      it's all you, they mess up the parking lot and you can never find a spot or you always get dinged

      2:22.8

      or something, you can shop somewhere else and you're not disloyal. So it just doesn't apply. And that's

      2:28.3

      the reason that we're doing this episode, because there's a lot of discussion, especially as men are

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