Homo Sovieticus and the Wily Man: Truth, Ambition, & Compromise in Putin's Russia | Joshua Yaffa
Hidden Forces
Demetri Kofinas
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 3 February 2020
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
In Episode 121, of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Joshua Yaffa, a Moscow correspondent for The New Yorker about what life is like in Putin's Russia. Yaffa's latest book on the subject is a fascinating inquiry into the Soviet and post-Soviet personality type that sustains the state's power and Vladimir Putin's place atop it.
Joshua Yaffa's new book is titled, "Between Two Fires: Truth, Ambition, and Compromise in Putin's Russia." It's a book about life in modern Russia that pulls both from the country's history, as well as from a large body of sociological research into the Soviet and post-Soviet personality type whose "habits, inclinations, and internal moral calculations," according to Joshua "elevated Vladimir Putin to his current position and which now perform the small, daily work that, in aggregate, keeps him there."
This conversation is one of the more nuanced you are bound to hear on the subject of Russia, Putin, and Russian propaganda in American media. Yaffa speaks critically, but honestly, about a country that features prominently in American politics today. Demetri also shares insights from his own experience working at the Russian state media outlet RT (Russia Today).
For Patreon subscribers, this week's rundown covers not only the subject of Demetri's conversation with Joshua, but much of Yaffa's book as well. You can access that rundown, the overtime segment, as well as a transcript to this week's episode through the Hidden Forces Patreon Page.
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode of Hidden Forces is made possible by listeners like you. |
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| 0:24.9 | amazing community. And with that, please enjoy this week's episode. And the What's up everybody? My guest today is Joshua Yaffa, a Moscow correspondent for the New Yorker who has also |
| 0:56.0 | written for The Economist, The New York Times, National Geographic, Bloomberg Business |
| 1:01.2 | Week, The New Republic, and Foreign Affairs, where he was also an associate |
| 1:05.7 | editor prior to his move to Moscow. |
| 1:09.7 | Joshua is out with his first book titled Between Two Fires, Truth, Ambition, and Compromise in |
| 1:17.2 | Putin's Russia. |
| 1:18.8 | It's a book about life in modern Russia that pulls both from the country's history as well as from a large body |
| 1:26.2 | of sociological research into the Soviet and post-Soviet personality type, whose habits, inclinations, and internal moral calculations, according to |
| 1:37.4 | Joshua, elevated Vladimir Putin to his current position, and which now performed a small daily work that an aggregate keeps him there. |
| 1:47.8 | I loved this book in no small part because I've grown exhausted from all the |
| 1:54.4 | tropes and sophisms used in contemporary conversations about Russia. |
| 2:00.0 | I've wanted to find someone who can speak critically but honestly about a country that features |
| 2:06.5 | prominently in American politics today and which I think has become a political football in a much larger game between Democrats |
| 2:16.0 | and Republicans, officiated by a foreign policy establishment that seems committed to escalating tensions with one of the world's largest |
| 2:25.2 | military powers. As some of you already know, my old television program ran on the |
| 2:32.0 | Russian RT network from 2011 to early 2013 and I share some of my |
| 2:38.0 | insights from that experience both during the full episode and in the overtime. |
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