This week, on Forward, Jules and I discuss homelessness, billionaires,

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Welcome back, Jules. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? I heard you left the country

for the first time in your life recently. Yeah, 24 years old. Left the country for the first time in

my life. I grew up going to vacation like Florida basically and having taken vacation in the past,

I'd say two and a half years. Sure, a lot of people, same boat. Yeah, and so it was,

I'm such a work of haul, it was kind of hard to step away, but it was like super refreshing. Just

remind of me that solitude is important for everyone and taking a break is definitely important for

everyone. Helps you in the long term be better. Yes, you heard it here. Even young world class,

social media influencers, like you, you need to take a break, get some detox. Yeah, it's such a

toxic work culture today, especially with work from homes. I mean, I love work from home. I'm

kind of like a squirrel in a lot of situations in college. I studied in a library, so it's like,

anyway, work from home, it's even harder to shut down work. Everyone knows that. Yeah, it was a

good forced time to unplug and really rejuvenating because I think you think when you go on vacation,

you're like, oh, I'm going to miss out on so much like time and energy. I could be putting into work,

but I'm like, okay, now I can come back like stronger and better with a refreshed mind.

Especially you might be a bit more inspired, balanced, productive, etc, etc. I mean, a lot of the

times breaks the most productive things you can do. It's hard to do. So I've been a CEO of a

number of organizations and there was one company where I would tell people to take vacation,

they would not. And then someone came to me and said, hey, Andrew, the only way people are going

to take vacation around here is if you take vacation. So you take a vacation and I was like,

okay, it's not what you say, it's what you do. So then I took a vacation and really enjoyed

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