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Allender. This week, Dan and Becky Allender conclude our holiday series by talking about something

that will be all too familiar for most listeners.

Family conflict.

Becky and Dan discuss what it might look like to pause.

Consider the dynamics playing out in our family system

and look for a new way forward next time we go home for Christmas.

From all of us here at the Allender Center,

we wish you a very Merry Christmas and hope that you might experience something new of the light that shines in the darkness and has not been overcome.

But we're moving into a topic related to holidays that we'll simply call Christmas conflict.

And your sentence before we began, Becky, what did you just say?

I said this will be an easy one because we remember the conflict.

And, yeah, it's really high during our Christmases when we are raising

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