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Get to know, BlackRock Investment Trusts at blackrock.com. You have a lot working for you. I live in Kent. Get to know BlackRock Investment Trusts at blackrock.com. You have a lot working for you. Capital at risk, marketing material. BlackRock Investment Management UK Limited, authorized and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Bullwork. I am Sunny Bunch, I'm culture editor at the Bullwork. And I'm really happy to be talking to Adrian Keroskio today of our huddled masses newsletter,

you know, about immigration, DHS, ICE, all that stuff. Because we've got a little bit of a,

we got a little bit of a mix here. We got a little bit of a, you know, a crossover event.

Because Adrian had a really exciting interview with an actor on one of our favorite shows,

The Pit.

Adrian, who did you talk to and why were you talking to them?

Yeah, first of all, I'm so excited to do our crossover event of the summer,

I guess not maybe the spring.

It's really awesome to talk with you.

Also about a show The Pit that I love, so I'm really glad that we had to talk about this.

I spoke to Jasele Mariano, who actually plays one of the ice agents. So this is the episode that people have been talking about. I know we'll get into it of, oh, the pit is going to have an ice episode. And we already know the politics of this last year. So we know how polarizing that would be and all those things. And I see this guy make a post. And I don't even follow him yet, right? It's just the algorithm. And, um, and he sort of makes a post that's like, hey, guys, I played the ice agent. Don't hate me. But, but, you know, he talks a little bit about being on one of his favorite shows and shows photos with the cast. And I was just like intensely interested in this because, um, I watched the show. I enjoy the show and, you know, it talks about stuff that we are not familiar with in our personal lives at times. And it sort of humanizes doing things that you may not know about. And all of a sudden I'm getting hit over the head with immigration, which I'm covering all the time. And I'm like, ooh, this is a little bit, a little bit more serious and it's kind of impacting me more than I thought, just to see it dramatized in that way. Anyway, I talked to him and he said, look, I made the post because sometimes people have trouble separating the character from the actor. And so I thought that that was, like, fascinating. But he said he got so much support from the Pitt fan base that they're a very savvy audience, that they understand he's playing role as I'm rewatching the scene I'm thinking to myself um is it just me or they doing sort of like a

good ice Asian bad ice Asian vibe there there's a tall guy with a mask and he's sort of he looks

very physically imposing because of his height the way they shoot him um but at the same time

um you know he's got the mask on.

So he looks like all these guys that we've seen in videos. It looks very intimidating. And then the guy that I'm speaking to, Jocel, he's playing an ice agent who's showing his face. They're both ice agents of color, which we can get into very fascinating and something that we've seen in real life. And so then you have the guy with the mask is sort of more, you know, a little bit, you could tell he's a little bit more serious, a little bit meaner. And then Jocel, who we're talking to is not just by showing his face, but you can even see in his response to the doctors and to the scene that he's a little bit nicer and things like that. So anyway, I thought it was really cool and I was really glad to be able to talk to him for my, for my newsletter, which is going to get into ICE in hospitals and what that has looked like over the last year. Yeah, it's a really, it's a really interesting sequence in the show because the show has always a, it's, it's funny watching the show because there's, it does this kind of, you know, Michael Crichton thing. And this, of course, was like kind of started as an ER spinoff. And there was, there was some drama there. So it's not. But Crichton was, you know, the guy who created ER. But it does these things where, like, there are definitely like these little moments where the show stops. And we're like, we're having a discussion about issues and then and then

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