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Gangland Wire

Hollywood and the Chicago Boys: Stone Wallace on Mobsters in Tinseltown

Gangland Wire

Gary Jenkins

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime, History

4.6647 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Gangland Wire, retired Kansas City intelligence detective Gary Jenkins sits down with writer and mob historian Stone Wallace—a man whose path has crossed acting, broadcasting, boxing, and a lifelong fascination with organized crime. The focus of today’s conversation is Stone Wallace’s latest book, Hollywood and the Chicago Boys, which uncovers how the Chicago Outfit quietly moved in on Hollywood in the 1930s. With Prohibition fading, figures like Frank Nitti and Tony Accardo shifted their sights to new rackets in film unions, projection booths, and studio lots. Stone Wallace's obsession with the mob began at age seven with a library book on the 1920s. It lit a fire that would eventually lead Wallace to explore the violent glamour of the underworld in both fiction and nonfiction. Stone Wallace shares how he created the fictional studio boss Sam Bast, modeled after several real-life moguls, and how mob-connected actors like George Raft blurred the lines between movie star and made man. From behind-the-scenes extortion to real-life gangland enforcers like Jack “Machine Gun” McGurn, this episode connects the dots between celluloid dreams and street-level muscle. Stone Wallace's Amazon author page. 🔍 Highlights: Why Frank Nitti saw Hollywood as the Outfit’s next goldmine The real mob ties of actor George Raft The creation of Sam Bast, a fictional composite of Hollywood studio heads Extortion in the projectionist booths and labor unions Mobster myths vs. brutal realities—how fiction reflects fact 📚 Featured Book: Hollywood and the Chicago Boys by Stone Wallace — a hardboiled blend of true crime and noir fiction 🎬 Notable Names Discussed: Frank Nitti, Tony Accardo, George Raft, Jack McGurn, Sam Giancana 💬 Quote of the Episode: “Hollywood wasn’t just glitz and cameras. It was a new racket—and the Outfit wanted in.” 0:02 Introduction to the Underworld 1:25 Early Fascination with the Mob 2:29 Hollywood and the Chicago Boys 5:34 The Allure of George Raft 7:22 Researching the Mob's Hollywood Infiltration 12:05 The Role of Unions in the Mob 14:51 Tony Accardo: The Complex Character 17:05 The Impact of the Mob on Society 23:04 Writing Westerns and a Modern Sheriff 25:43 Upcoming Films and Future Projects Subscribe to Gangland Wire wherever you get your podcasts, and join us each week as we uncover the stories buried beneath the headlines—and the bodies. Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to "buy me a cup of coffee" To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent Brothers against Brothers, the documentary, click here.  To rent Gangland Wire, the documentary, click here To buy my Kindle book, Leaving Vegas: The True Story of How FBI Wiretaps Ended Mob Domination of Las Vegas Casinos. Transcript [0:00] Well, hey, all you wiretappers out there, good to be back here in the studio. Gary Jenkins, retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit detective, worked a mob in Kansas City for, I don't know, 14, 15 years. And now in retirement, I am still investigating the mob. So, you know, I interviewed different authors who've written mob books, and I've got one on the line right now, Stone Wallace. Stone Wallace, he's been an actor, a broadcast announcer, a boxer, a celebrity interviewer himself. I've interviewed a couple of celebrities No big ones But a creative writing guy Media instructor Written advertising. [0:38] For different companies And he really started out writing westerns If I remember right Oh yeah He wrote stories If you ever read Louis L'Amour Which I did when I was young He wrote those kinds of stories But later he got into the mob So Stonewallis, welcome Thank you very much, Gary. It's a pleasure to be here speaking with you on ...

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0:00.0

Well, hey, all you wiretappers out there, good to be back here in studio.

0:03.4

Gary Jenkins, retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit Detective, worked at the mob in Kansas City for, I don't know, 14, 15 years.

0:11.6

And now in retirement, I am still investigating the mob.

0:15.6

So, you know, I interviewed different authors who've written mob books, and I've got one on the line right now

0:21.6

Stone Wallace Stone Wallace as he's been an actor or broadcast announcer or boxer

0:26.8

celebrity interviewer himself I've interviewed a couple of celebrities no big ones but

0:31.7

crazy writing guy media instructor written advertising for different companies.

0:40.7

And he really started out writing westerns, if I remember right?

0:44.1

I mean, oh, yeah, he wrote stories.

0:47.5

If you ever read Louis Lamore, which I did when I was young.

0:52.0

Well, he wrote those kinds of stories, but later he's got into

0:55.1

the mouth. So Stone Wallace, welcome. Thank you very much, Gary. It's a pleasure to be here

1:01.0

speaking with you on your new broadcast. Well, it's great to have you on. Tell the guys a little bit

1:05.7

about your life, anything you would want them to know about you. Well, I suppose the most important thing would be that I've always had an interest in the underworld.

1:16.7

And it started at a very young age.

1:18.6

I was about seven years old or so when I was visiting my aunt.

1:22.3

And she had a library book there about the 1920s.

1:25.9

And I was sitting there and I kind of flipped through the pages and I came to the section about the

1:30.5

underworld, especially the Chicago underworld. And I don't know what it was, but something pretty much clicked at that point.

1:37.7

And I just found an incredibly fascinating. And it just kind of stayed with me. And to this day, it has never actually left me.

1:45.1

I've been fascinated by the mob, especially the Chicago underworld.

1:48.7

And I've done a lot of research into it.

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