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Museum in Washington, D.C. I'm Dr. Vince Hote, the museum's historian and curator.

Every month, the museum brings you interesting talks

with authors, scholars, and practitioners who live in the world of global espionage.

Join us as we take a closer look at the secret world of intelligence.

In early October I traveled to Los Angeles for the first annual

Politicon, a nonpartisan comic-on style event for politics and entertainment.

Besides me, who was representing spy cast in the spy museum.

Fellow members of the political lineup included James Carville, New Gingrich, Ann Coulter,

Paul Bagala, David Axelrod, Edward Snowden, who came via video uplink, Doris Kearns Goodwin, and the new daily show host

Trevor Noah.

While in LA, I got a chance to talk to Dr. Stephen Ross, who is a professor of history

at the University of Southern California.

After receiving his BA from Columbia University

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