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Come out to Minneapolis. What you won't find is a hellhole, but a beautiful city. It is a city in a park. You won't find a community that is tearing down Minneapolis in our Somali Americans.

You will find a group of people that is uplifting Minneapolis and is proud to be here.

They are proud to call this extraordinary place home.

I'm sure they're happy to call it home.

You can defraud the government for a million, a billion dollars and get away with it. Oh, yeah, you can be born in Somalia, come to America and get rich for doing nothing except stalled. Yeah, that's great. Not that all Somalis are that way. Certainly not. But, yeah, there's a ginormous problem. That was the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey. It's spelled like Fry, but he wants to be different i'm guessing is he denying that the billion

dollars were stolen or is he just trying to uh he's responding to trump's hyperbole polish a

unfortunate object and try to make it kind of a little better no he's just responding to trump

saying that it's a hell hole and they've ruined Minneapolis and blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, I found this troubling and interesting and absolutely has the ring of truth about it.

It's in the free press for what it's worth.

Dominic Green, who's an excellent writer, had a long conversation with a well-respected historian by the name of David Betts.

He's a historian at King's College in London.

And he is an expert in what he prefers to call civil conflict or extreme civil discord, as opposed to civil war, because these things

don't start when Fort Sumter is fired upon, for instance, although he's an expert on our Civil

War, too, interestingly enough. And, you know, it's dramatic, but it would take too long. They spell out

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