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Tides of History

Historical Fiction and the Wars of the Roses: An Interview with Philippa Gregory

Tides of History

Audible / Patrick Wyman

History, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.76.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

We talked to bestselling novelist Philippa Gregory about her views of history and historical fiction, and her perspective on the Wars of the Roses, where she has spent many years.

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0:00.0

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0:04.1

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0:05.3

Hey, Alia.

0:11.8

So we're going to start this one off a little bit differently.

0:14.3

Yeah, I have a couple questions for you about women's history.

0:18.0

Because most of the history that I grew up learning, history that we talk about on this

0:21.3

show, is men's history in the sense that it is from the perspective of men.

0:25.7

So what happens when we shift that perspective to women?

0:29.5

Well, a lot of things change.

0:30.8

I mean, women make up at least half and usually substantially more than half of the population

0:37.2

at any given point in history.

0:38.6

So if you are writing what is implicitly men's history and a lot of political history, economic

0:44.3

history, social history, cultural history, implicitly gets written as men's history with

0:48.8

men as the focus of it.

0:50.5

When you shift that focus, it leads you to different people, first and foremost, like

0:56.1

it leads you to different kind of historical protagonists.

0:58.9

But it also leads you to focus on different questions.

1:01.3

This is something we talked about back in the interview we did with Judith Bennett back

1:04.1

in November, the way in which it changes your perception of the economy, of historical

1:09.1

change, of kind of stasis versus change as important topics, the extent to which things

1:16.3

change versus the extent to which things get different.

1:18.3

So a lot of women's history as it has been written is a history of constants as opposed

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