His Affair Made Her a New York Times Bestseller
Obsessed: The Podcast
The Daily Beast
4.5 • 686 Ratings
🗓️ 10 February 2026
⏱️ 53 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another episode of Obsessed the Podcast. |
| 0:06.5 | I'm Kevin Fallon, your entertainment guide through all the TV shows, movies, and pop culture |
| 0:12.4 | news that we think is unmissable. |
| 0:14.7 | And today we have a very special treat. |
| 0:17.4 | The icon, the legend, the Daily Beast podcast Maven, Joanna Coles, is doing our big interview |
| 0:24.7 | today. She's interviewing the author, Bell Burden, whose book, Stranger, is burning up the |
| 0:29.5 | bestseller list. It's all everyone is talking about. It's about her surprise divorce, |
| 0:33.2 | and she's going to get into all of that. But first, I have a bone to pick with Joanna because as part of my job here at The Daily Beast, |
| 0:42.3 | I was forced to watch the Malania documentary. |
| 0:45.9 | Joanna, please justify this for me. |
| 0:49.4 | I'm the only person, I think, that quite enjoyed the Malani. |
| 0:53.0 | Really? |
| 0:53.6 | Yeah, why did you hate it? I mean, |
| 0:55.5 | I understand why you didn't like it. But let's get into it a bit. Well, my first thing, |
| 1:01.9 | it's like not a sexy headline. It was boring. It was just a really, to me, boring documentary. |
| 1:08.1 | It reminded me of like when you're taking a flight and they do those like pre-flight |
| 1:12.4 | videos where it's like here at United Airlines, what we care about is family and synergy and |
| 1:16.8 | travel and adventure. It was like all of that kind of like business propaganda, but for the |
| 1:22.3 | office of the first lady in a way that was not illuminating. I didn't learn anything new about her. |
| 1:44.7 | It was not exciting or dramatic, even though she was filming the lead-up to the inauguration. I just, like, wanted there to be something redeeming or, like, remotely watchable about it, and I didn't find that. Oh, I did learn quite a lot about that. Really? Yeah, it's possible that you knew more about how than I did going into it. |
| 1:47.5 | But I learned quite a lot. |
| 1:55.1 | First of all, that I thought she was signaling very strongly that she wants us to know she does not sleep with Donald Trump. |
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