Hindsight: Stagger Lee & Killer Mike

Reflector

Longview

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.6 • 577 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Today we’ve got a very special Hindsight episode that revisits the themes explored in our "Filthy Slime" episodes (Parts 1 & 2). We’re delighted to be joined by living legend and recent Grammy winner Killer Mike. He discusses his view of "rap on trial" and the complex relationship between art, crime, and life for young people in some of America’s toughest neighborhoods. We also explore the legend of Stack Lee – AKA Stagger Lee – and the hundreds of songs and performances inspired by his most infamous crime. Writer, poet, and Washburn University professor Eric McHenry explains why this story continues to resonate more than a century after the notorious saloon murder. As a new show, we’re still experimenting with different formats to tell stories and explore ideas. We’d love to hear your feedback! Please reach out to hello@reflector.show with your thoughts, questions, and story suggestions. Special thanks for this episode go to Killer Mike, Kmele Foster, Van Lathan, Megan Phelps-Roper, Claire Reynolds, and Eric McHenry. Links: Playlist of some of the music featured in this episode Listen to Killer Mike’s recent album Read more from Eric McHenry here or check out his essay on Stagger Lee, which he’s currently developing into a book called Original Gangster. Thank you to our sponsor. You can visit them here to learn more: GROUND.NEWS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Can you say the word, reflector?
0:04.6	Reflector.
0:06.3	Reflector.
0:06.7	Reflector!
0:10.8	Reflector!
0:12.7	You're listening to Reflector.
0:15.5	And today we have one of our hindsight episodes.
0:18.6	We typically save these for paid subscribers only but decided that
0:22.4	this time we really wanted to share it with everyone. We'll be back with that after a
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1:08.0	It was allowed to spread while governments dragged their feet and tech companies shrugged.
1:12.9	I'm staring at myself in this video that I know I haven't made.
1:15.0	This is what it looks like to feel violated.
1:20.0	This season on Understood, if you follow the trail, who does it lead to?
1:21.9	These images, they were like hunting me.
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