Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,

great men, and great ideas. This is Hillsdale Dialogues, part of the Hillsdale College

Podcast Network. More episodes at podcast.orgast.hillsdale.edu or wherever you find your audio.

Morning, glory, and evening, Grace, America.

I'm Hugh Hewitt.

You hear that music in the background.

That means it's time for the Hillsdale dialogue.

Enough of tariffs,

enough of Iran. We turn to him big, important stuff. Dr. Ron is gone for a couple of weeks,

so we're taking a detour from Churchill's World War II memoirs into something almost as English

as Churchill. I guess we have to count Shakespeare as English as Churchill. I'm joined by Dr. Khalil Habib.

He's been a guest before he's back from Hillsdale.

He's got a very interesting background.

He went to the University of Maine.

I've got to figure what that's out.

He's got his doctrine in political theory, his master's in political theory, and he teaches Shakespeare

and political theory up at Hillsdale College,

all things, hillsdale at Hillsdale.edu.

Dr. Habib, welcome back, professor.

Why did you go to the University of Maine?

I live a quarter of the year in Maine.

I'm just curious.

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