On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. How do we explain and destroy ourselves as a species?

It's quite a difficult thing to achieve actually, because the Tao, the conscience is so deeply

embedded in all of us that even as we try to escape it we

we just find ourselves willy-nilly relying on certain aspects of it one or two shreds of the dow that we've retained.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now,

only available on the Larry Arne Show.

Find it on the Hillsdale College Podcast Network at

podcast dot Hillsdale dot edu or wherever you get your audio and subscribe to

receive new episodes delivered right to your device. That's podcast dot Hillsdale.

EDU. Morning glory and evening grace America. It's Hugh Hewitt. Thank you for

listening to the Hugh Hewitt show. It is that time of the week, time for the Hillsdale Dialogue,

where I sit down with Dr. Larry Arn and or another member

of the Hillsdale Faculty.

We're so pleased this week to have Dr. Arn and Dr Dr. Thomas West who is a professor of politics

at Hillsdale College after a distinguished quarter century at the University of

Dallas and that I'm hoping you'll set Dr. Orange straight, Dr. West.

It's great to have you here and give me some help.

I've been running roughshod over me in the last few weeks of these dialogues.

I've experienced that to you, so we'll do the best we can.

Together we might be able to restrain him,

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