On the new episode of the Larry Arn show, Hillsdale College President Larry Arn

sits down with theologian and CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward for a one-on-one

conversation. Isn't that too bad children's story ends tragically?

Well, it's a bold move. I agree to kill off literally every character

and destroy the world that you've just spent previous six books creating.

The amazing thing is that he manages to pull it off as well as he does.

Listen to this exclusive interview with Michael Ward right now, only available on the Larry Arne Show.

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podcast dot hillsdale dot edu. dot E.DU. Morning glory and evening grace.

It's you here.

And another of the Hillsdale Dialogues.

Once a week at this time I sit down with Dr Larry Arne, president of Hillsdale College,

and one of his colleagues in this case Dr. Thomas West, professor of politics at

Hillsdale College, talk about one of the great texts or issues from ancient and more modern times. We are in ancient

Greece and we pick up with Plato where we left off last week but I must confess to

both Dr. West and to Dr. Er and I dread this conversation and I'll tell you why. I learned the Republic from Harvey Mansfield.

I didn't understand it then. I still barely know my way around it now. I think it's an incredibly

difficult book. And so Larry on I'm going to turn to you first

and have you explain to the audience why it is so important and its general

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