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So what's the difference between the person who's unable to make that step and change their habits and become comfortable with the things that are

uncomfortable, learn to at least bear the things that they don't like versus those who

aren't?

It all comes down to mindset.

In my second book, Interdependent Leadership, I teach about that you can really only build your business if you have inclusivity with your team.

It can't be, for example, if you own the salon, Eric, you coming up with all the ideas, that's exhausting, right?

So my philosophy is you've got to get everybody involved.

You'd rather have five or six hearts in minds looking at an issue and collaborating than not.

But the missing is perception. It starts with thinking, you know, that you and I could be connected

and I could espouse your values because I believe in what you've

created, therefore I want to work with you. But if I have a different perception around something,

like let's say retail, you know, you are very adamant about serving the guests at home care

and I am, you know, stuck in my thoughts that people can't afford

it and, oh, they're going to think I'm pushy. So if I have that perception, that is a barrier to my

own progression, and it's a barrier to me buying into your belief system. So even if we have

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