These are the highlights of the full episode.

Hey, listener, I'm Eric Taylor.

Hope you guys are liking these interviews that we did during ISSC.

There's a few more coming up, and I think you're going to like them.

We're very busy getting a lot of great content for you guys.

Speaking of ISSC, if you haven't heard,

it is changing. It will no longer be called ISSE and it will no longer be in Long Beach. So the

organizations that put together Premier, Premier Orlando, there's several premieres, but Premier Orlando, I think, is a big one that everybody

knows about. Those organizations are going to organize a hair show called Premier in Anaheim. And that's

going to start, I believe, next year, 2003. So there's going to be premieres in Anaheim, Orlando,

San Antonio, and Columbus. And of course, Cosmaprof, not of course, but Cosmoproff will remain

in Vegas. It's put on by the same organizations. And then in 2024, that organization is Vegas is put on by the same organizations and then in 2024 that organization is going

to put on a premiere in Miami okay so no more ISSE Long Beach is going to be premier

anaheim starting next year 2023 how about that okay let's talk pod loot this is the middle of the

month which means you have a couple weeks to write reviews on the apple podcast app and get your

name the bag for the drawing for the monthly podalute giveaway i will give you more details at the

end of the show now Now to my conversation with

Maddie Conrad. I mean, that's a great big battle for almost every element of our industry,

too. You know, so I mean, if it's an industry focused thing, then we're all struggling for

relevancy. We're all struggling to be fresh and new and keep things exciting. And I mean, there's always going to be these external circumstances that happen, which lend themselves to just not being that.

You know what I mean?

It's like that client that comes in and sits in your chair every four weeks and goes,

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