The high organic touch is not just a way for it to get people into the sales, but I'm constantly

asking for feedback from my clients on what I could do to improve. Or if I even notice that something

is not working, sometimes I'll just Voxer a client. You know, one of my best clients like, hey,

I'm noticing this is happening. Do you have any feedback for me? Should I do this or this?

I really attribute my success for my high

referral and renewal rate from listening to my clients.

Hey, my friend, welcome to the art of online business podcast. My name is Rick Mulready,

and I'm an online business coach. I'm an ads

expert and most importantly, I'm a dad. And this show is where we help establish online course

creators and coaches create more profit, more impact, with less hustle. All right, let's get into it.

What's up, my friend? Welcome back to the show. Thank you for tuning in today, as always.

Super appreciate you. So my guest today, her name is Elaine Lou Cardas, and she's a business and

career coach and as well as a speaker. And she specializes in helping women of color

entrepreneurs and industry leaders land their dream career and create business opportunities

through relationships, both online and offline. And Elaine is also the founder of Color Your

Dreams Movement, which is an initiative to inspire and support

women of all colors to create their business dream and life. And Elaine is an expert in what she

likes to call high organic touch and no touch times.

Now, the no touch times, we can take that a couple different ways.

Number one, like we've been in a pandemic for two years, right, almost two years.

And so we haven't been able to connect with people on a personal level, especially in our businesses, right?

But also, no touch times. Like I look at that. And one thing I think about

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