Welcome to the Screw the Cloud. I'm your host, Steve Stanioulis Each week, we're going to have amazing guests share their

stories of saying, screw it. Tune in each week. This is Screw the Cloud.

Welcome to Screw the Cloud. Once again, my name is Steve Staluner, and we have another

amazing guest today. As you know, we go all over the map, and that's why right now on Apple Podcasts, we are number eight.

We are the number eight podcasts right now as we speak.

It's not because of me and my voice.

It's because of the amazing guests and interesting guests we always tend to have on.

So today we have another amazing guest that I happen to have so many questions for

because I want to know how people get into and what people talk about and all this stuff.

Terry, how are you doing?

Great, Steve. How are you doing?

Great. Terry is actually a relationship coach and has written many books about relationships.

And Terry, what I want to know is somebody who's had some complicated relationships in their life.

How does one become a relationship coach?

Well, here's the thing. I've been a licensed psychotherapist for the past 27 years. So relational stuff is definitely my wheelhouse.

What are my wheelhouses? I'm an expert at boundaries, communication, and relationships.

So love is one of my main things that I am, I love love and I love talking about it.

So how, how you focus on that is really the question.

Like in my professional career, what they say most people is that you teach what you most need to learn.

And so for me, that is absolutely true.

I was like a disaster in love.

I didn't understand. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. When you say disaster and love, let's, let's elaborate. When you say, I was a disaster in love, what does that really mean? What, what had happened without getting too intimate? What had happened in the past that you could use that to turning it into being a relationship coach.

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