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How I Built This with Guy Raz

HIBT Lab! Wildtype: Aryé Elfenbein and Justin Kolbeck

How I Built This with Guy Raz

Guy Raz | Wondery

Business

4.831.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

When Aryé Elfenbein and Justin Kolbeck met in 2011, they had no intention of starting a business. Aryé was a cardiologist, and Justin was a diplomat who had lived in countries all over the world. But their chance meeting at a dinner party led to a deep friendship focused on working together to change the world. Through regular Saturday morning brainstorming sessions, they settled on pursuing a scientific approach to growing meat for human consumption.

This week on How I Built This Lab, Aryé and Justin discuss the problems with modern seafood production and how their company, Wildtype, hopes to revolutionize the industry by using stem cells to cultivate real, sushi-grade salmon...without harming any actual fish.

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

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0:10.0

Hello and welcome to How I Built This Lab.

0:12.6

I'm Guy Ross.

0:13.6

Alright, so a lot of us have made the decision to either cut back or completely cut out

0:19.7

meat from our lives.

0:21.6

For some people, it's a moral issue around harming animals.

0:25.5

For other people, it's health, and for me, it's because the environmental impact of meat

0:30.2

consumption.

0:31.2

But I still eat meat and I still eat seafood, and admittedly, I have occasional pangs

0:37.6

of guilt knowing that I'm contributing to a bigger problem.

0:41.7

Livestock production is a huge contributor to global carbon emissions.

0:46.0

Our oceans are being overfished, and the huge amount of microplastics floating deep in

0:51.8

the sea are making their way into our fish and consequently into our bodies.

0:58.2

So a good question to ask is, do we need to kill animals to create meat?

1:03.8

Well, until recently, the answer was, of course, don't be ridiculous, but with advances

1:09.8

in stem cell technology, we are coming much closer to a different answer.

1:15.6

And that's the starting point for a company called Wild Type Foods based in San Francisco.

1:21.3

Wild Type was started by two friends, Justin Colbeck and Arya Elfenbine.

1:26.0

Justin was a foreign service officer who spent time in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

1:31.3

Arya is a biologist and a trained cardiologist.

1:34.4

But together, they ditch their careers to pursue the idea of growing real salmon without

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