This is CBSI in the world.

I'm John Batchel.

I welcome my good colleague, Dr. Henry Miller, physician,

writing most recently of the nomination

for Surgeon General of the United States, Dr. Casey Means.

And Henry lays out very carefully.

He is the Glenn Swagger Distinguished Fellow at the American Council on Science and Health.

The inadequacy of Dr. Means' background.

Yes, Stanford trained medical doctor, co-founder of the metabolic health startup.

Levels.

However, I go immediately to the one that most attracted me.

Dr. Means is an advocate, a devotee, a celebrant of the wellness industrial complex.

Henry, a very good evening to you. What is that? I'm sorry you've got me. What is it?

It's a collaboration between people who have unconventional, unconventional, insupportable views of health and disease, who have turned it into a business, a profitable business.

And Casey Means is really the prototype of a practitioner of wellness.

She's regarded as a prominent wellness influencer, to coin a phrase.

I don't know what wellness.

What is wellness?

Is that what we are?

Wellness, in this sense, John, denies the veracity and usefulness and importance of conventional

medicine, that is of conventional diagnostics and

conventional medicines and vaccines in particular. So to give you a concrete example from Casey Means

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