Hey friends, and welcome to the Happy Hour with Jamie Ivy Podcasts.

I'm your host Jamie, and I'm so glad you're here.

Each week on this show, I invite a friend to join me, and we chat about the big things in life,

the little things in life, and everything in between.

Hey friends, welcome to the Happy Hour.

Today I have a conversation with Preston Sprinkle.

Preston's the president of the Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender,

and he's also a New York Times best-selling author.

He's written a dozen books, including People to Be Loved, which is an award-winning book

on faith and homosexuality. Preston lives in Boise, Idaho, with his wife and kids,

and I tell Preston in this interview what I initially thought of him, and I want to lay it out

here real quick is when I first started following Preston, I was confused a little bit by him,

because I was used to people publicly talking around conversation about faith and homosexuality

with a lack of care, with a lack of generosity, with a lack of compassion, with a lack of kindness,

and that's not how Preston is at all. He is full of kindness and full of compassion,

and he cares deeply for people, and he has real hard, difficult conversations around faith and

sexuality. Over the years, as I've followed Preston and have really grown to admire and respects

his work and him as a person, I was so honored to have him on the happy hour. Now, Preston has

never been on the happy hour before, but he was on my other podcast called The Launch. If you're a

parent, you should go check out the podcast launch. I host it with my friend Lisa Widdle, and I actually

did a whole bonus episode with Preston about having conversations with our kids, not just about

sexuality, but about conversations around transgender. What is it? How do we deal with it? What

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