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Pints With Aquinas

Here’s why Muslims Are Coming to Christ | Ft. Fr. Jason Charron | Last Call Ep. 4

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.87K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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In today's Last Call, Matt Fradd lays out the "Islamic Dilemma." He then sits down with Father Jason Charron to discuss the growing phenomenon of Muslims converting to Christianity. Together they announce an upcoming pilgrimage opportunity to journey to the Seven Churches of Revelation. Join them in Turkey October 27 - November 6, 2026!  📚Resources Mentioned:  Pilgrimage to Turkey: https://www.signaturetours.com/JCharron26 PWA with David Wood: https://youtu.be/qOjtBsyJ5V4?si=ayg96aWd8PZCfppz Pints: Last Call Ep. 4 - - - Today's Sponsors: Hallow: Deepen your personal relationship with God today. Visit https://hallow.com/MattFradd to get 3 months free. Relay: Ready to overcome porn? Visit https://joinrelay.app/pints and use code PINTS for 7 days free. Seven Weeks Coffee: Save up to 25% with promo code 'PINTS' at https://sevenweekscoffee.com/PINTS - - - Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: ⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe⁠⁠ 🍿 The Pendragon Cycle: Rise of the Merlin is now streaming exclusively on DailyWire+ https://dwplus.watch/ThePendragon - - - 📕 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://a.co/d/bDU0xLb 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mattfradd.locals.com/support⁠⁠⁠⁠ - - - 💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: https://facebook.com/mattfradd 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/Pints_W_Aquinas⁠⁠⁠ 🎵 TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://tiktok.com/@pintswithaquinas⁠⁠⁠ 📚 PWA Merch – ⁠⁠⁠https://dwplus.shop/MattFraddMerch⁠⁠ 👕 Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com - - - Privacy Policy: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/privacy⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.3

What if I told you that the Quran, if taken seriously,

0:34.1

actually ends up refuting Islam?

0:36.9

That's what I'll be arguing for today.

0:44.0

This argument has stirred serious debate in Islamic apologetic circles, and while many have

0:50.0

tried to answer it, have scrambled to answer it, the problem has not gone away. To be clear,

0:57.0

this is not about politics per se. It's not about culture. It's not about what you personally

1:03.0

think of your Muslim friends or co-workers, who I'm sure may be kind, sincere and well-meaning

1:09.0

people. It's about whether the Quran, when taken seriously, ends up refuting Islam itself.

1:16.6

And if that's true, the implications are enormous.

1:25.6

There are two basic ways to critique any belief system.

1:30.3

You can critique it externally by judging it according to standards it doesn't accept,

1:35.3

or you can judge it internally by judging it according to standards it does accept.

1:40.3

And so an external critique of Islam will judge it according to standards that come from outside its own sources,

1:46.4

whether philosophical, historical or theological,

1:49.9

whereas an internal critique will begin from the Quran itself and ask whether Islam can stand on its own terms.

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