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Hello and welcome to start your week from The Bunker, your dose of news without the nonsense every weekday. I'm Jacob Jarvis, and joining me today is historian, author and broadcaster,

Alex von Tunzelman. Thank you for joining me, Alex. Hello, thank you for having me.

Alex, first off then, can we talk about this EU summit?

The signs do seem like they're quite positive at the moment, don't they?

They do, which is always a nice thing.

I mean, broadly, so although they are saying, I mean, the kind of headline at the moment is

everything's going down to the wire, I suspect everyone's been up all night having conversations about this and we'll see

what emerges from that this morning. But this is obviously an attempt by Kier-Stama to reset

the relationship with the EU. It's nine years now since the Brexit referendum. I mean,

nearly a decade, which is sort of extraordinary to think about. It seems much shorter

than that to me. But it's obviously been a relationship that's been in flux. And now we're looking

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