Get it, the Bert Show.

It was a shocking call when we took it on the Bert show, and then Abby's like, wait a minute,

this would be great for my podcast, breakup breakdown.

Terry, we're talking about.

Yeah, thank God Terry also brought it up too because I think sometimes I feel a little

guilty, getting so invested in these breakups and I feel sometimes like I'm

prying because you hear that somebody's husband slept with their daughter

and you're like, oh, well it went down, but at the same time you want to be sensitive of what's going on in their

life.

So I was like, thank you for bringing it up first.

It's not exploitation if they want to do it,

because it's more cathartic for them.

Exactly.

And I've been told that a lot, like on the other side of these calls

where I'm listening to people's breakups,

they're kind of like, wow, thanks,

that was sort of like free therapy.

You were providing a service, Abby.

Okay?

I'm less of an interviewer and more of just an active listener.

I'm just there for them to spill out all their feelings.

And I have no license to be able to do that. I went to

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