Welcome back to the art of accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment and ease.

I'm Brett Kisler, and I'm here again with Joe Hudson.

Hey, Brett. Good to see you again.

Yeah, you too. So today, I wanted to start with a story.

About 10, 15 years ago, in the height of my base jumping career, I taught my romantic partner at the time, my life partner, to jump off cliffs with a parachute.

And who boy.

That's a non-loaded situation right there.

Yeah.

Yeah, very, very non-loaded, we could say.

And also she was the first person that I ever taught to base jump.

Oh, wow.

I had done some coaching and skydiving and had informally mentored people, but I'd never been with somebody from, okay, here's step one, here's how you start, here's how you pack, here's the body

position, here's everything. And did that within the context of a relationship and all of the

stuff that happens within a romantic relationship.

Things like, don't tell me what to do, but no, no, it's your parachute.

No, no, don't tell me what to do.

No, no, let me just do everything for you.

No, no.

It was honestly a really wonderful experience for both of us to have had.

And also there was a lot of stuff that we moved through in it.

The thing that characterized the experience most for me was, which is what we're going to talk

about in this episode, was helplessness.

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