Welcome to the Conversations that Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. We have a guest with us today, Mr. Judd Saul, no stranger to the podcast. Thank you, Judd, for being with us.

Thanks for having me on, Mr. Harris. It's always a pleasure. And today we're going to talk

about something I know we've talked about once before and you're going to give us

kind of an update and let people know what they can do to help and just encourage

everyone with people are some people especially my listeners are kind of you know I think

bummed out a little bit about kind of what's happening politically here but there we're not to the point yet. We're not we haven't you know gone to the point of

Enduring the kind of persecution they're enduring in Nigeria and you Judd have an organization in Nigeria that is growing as I understand helping Christians on the ground, pastors, not just with spiritual needs and

Bibles and things like that, but you're, as I understand it,

you're supplying even things like bulletproof vests.

So I want you to talk about that with us encourage us a little bit with how they're dealing with persecution and I know you were just there so

Take it away

Well recently got back from Africa just before Christmas.

I was in Nigeria.

I can't name the specific state that I was in or area

due to security reasons. But one of the needs we've seen as a

ministry, we started off the ministry looking at trying to help, you know, kids

get into education, you know know after the villages are attacked these kids

really don't have anywhere to go to learn and we are looking at ways to further help intervene

after a crisis situation.

And as just over the year when COVID hit,

we've seen a lot of attacks increase

where they're going into villages killing indiscriminately and then people are pretty much permanently

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