As you know, I love talking about emotions, but there's one I don't talk about a lot. And honestly, it's one that I think I have a lot of struggle around. Grief. Now, we can easily think, no one in my life has died recently. No one's about to die. But here's the thing. We cannot go through life without processing grief. It will happen to all of us. It will happen to our kids.

And it's more than just a death in the family. It's shifting stages. It's moving. There's so many ways

grief comes up. And what I promise you is my conversation today with David Kessler, one of the

world's foremost experts on grief and loss, is going to transform you. It is going

to make you feel. It is going to give you visuals that stay with you forever. And I think one of

the most powerful things about this conversation is it's going to give you frameworks to understand

complicated feelings, maybe before they happen next time. And having those frameworks

in you now will change how those experiences end up being processed in your body and how things

end up going in your family home. Trust me, this is a conversation you do not want to miss.

And you also might want to get a tissue or two ready. I'm Dr. Becky,

and this is good inside. We'll be back right after this. Hi, David. Hi, nice to be here.

So happy to have you. So let's just jump right in. Okay. We're going to be talking about grief and loss. And I'm a big

definitions person. Right. I feel like that gives me a framework. And so let's just start with

grief. How do you define grief? What brought you to be interested in it? Let's just start there.

Okay. I think what brought me to be, it's what brought me to be interested in this, it's not a career that most people choose.

It kind of chose me. I grew up with a lot of loss in my childhood from neglect to sexual abuse, addiction.

And then when I was 13, my mother was dying. And at the same time

she was dying where we were staying at the hotel, there was a fire and a shooting. It turned out to be

one of the first mass shootings in the U.S. So it was a lot.

And I came away from that feeling really damaged and broken and this life was shot.

But luckily, I had a neighbor who really sort of gave me a little attention that I needed.

And she said, because I dropped out of school.

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