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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.6 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

As Donald Trump and his coterie return to the White House, everyone seems confident they know what levers to pull to get Trump to do what they want. The only issue, then, is what other members of Trumpworld want.  Guest: Ben Mathis-Lilly, senior writer at Slate Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:31.4

Today, inauguration day, it's got me thinking about an old TV show, Battlestar Galactica.

0:42.0

It ran on the sci-fi channel in the early 2000s.

0:45.1

There was this one line that was central to the series.

0:48.6

All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.

0:52.8

They were talking about stuff like robots and resurrection,

0:55.9

so this is not a one-for-one comparison.

0:58.6

But today, Donald Trump is going to be sworn in as president.

1:02.6

I can't help but feel like we were just here.

1:05.6

All of this has happened before.

1:07.4

All of this will happen again.

1:09.5

It is surprising to me that Trump hasn't been the president for like three weeks or a month

1:14.3

already. I keep having to remind myself that.

1:20.2

That's my colleague Ben Mathis Lilley, a senior writer here at Slate.

1:24.7

We were talking about how ever since Election Day, time has felt kind of funny. I don't know

1:31.1

about you, but to me, November seems like a really long time ago. Like we've been in this limbo.

1:38.0

Donald Trump isn't president yet, but he's never really gone away. It certainly seems like he's

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