All that matters is how the guest feels.

We're recording.

I wanted to start out this podcast today by not saying what I normally say, because I always announce the name of the podcast.

And I'm thinking that's just a waste of everybody's time because if you're already listening to the podcast you know because you

thought it out and you know the name of it so I'm not going to say what I normally say which is

welcome to the first time all right so with that being said I'm done with that because like I said

it's a waste time illogical okay and the next thing I was going to say is one of my favorite people

is back on the podcast because we just had the best time.

But I tell you something and it's so, so funny.

Okay.

All right.

First of all, women watching porn, women don't talk much about their relationship with porn.

Because it's a male dominated industry shot by men, mostly watched by men.

But as a woman who has been on my own for a long time, even during my marriage,

porn is handy because it visually, and like, it just helps get the job done faster, right?

Okay.

So. You're so visual, though. You're're so visually creative that's why you have a visual album you know oh thank you for a woman i think

you are oh my god i'm gonna get hate mail from chicks but i just think you're gifted well i think

oh by the way this is sally mullin's back in the podcast because i didn't introduce you you know who it was

we're talking about porn.

I just think you're extremely gifted visually because I usually think men are like a little more visual than women and I think you're, uh, you know, probably more visual than most guys. I mean,

really? Yeah. But I think women, I think it's so taboo for women to watch porn. Like I don't

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