Hello, hi and welcome to another episode of the Emma Gunn Show, and I'm delighted to say that this episode

features a conversation with my friend and author Helen Thorn. She's been on the show before. We've talked

about her book, Get Divorce, Be Happy, which is an absolutely

wonderfully insightful, brilliant, heartfelt, just brilliant read. And this time she popped round

to the flat to talk about how to face big change and come back stronger, which is her new book.

It really is the book that I think everybody needs to read for so many reasons.

And hopefully when you listen to this conversation, you will understand why I say that.

But for me, I came away feeling a sense of real reassurement, the kind of feeling that you can

only get when you've had one of those putting the world to write to chats

with one of your best friends. That's what this book is able to give you. It talks about coming up

against life's obstacles and how you deal with them, how you move on from them, how you plow through

them, all of those things. It's raw, It's real. She interviewed 50 incredible women for the

book to really weigh in on all of these different things that we might experience and what it means

to really go through trauma and to come out the other side, feeling stronger, better and not wounded,

basically, like maybe Bethel's guard, but not wounded.

Anyway, I loved the book.

I say it in the show, but I laughed, I cried.

I really found it to be very comforting, but I also really love this conversation with Helen,

and I hope that you adore it as much as I did.

Helen Thororn.

Hi, that's me.

Helen Thorne is only in the house.

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