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The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss

Helen Pluckrose

The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss

Lawrence M. Krauss

Science, Natural Sciences, Physics

4.4592 Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2024

⏱️ 149 minutes

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Summary

Helen Pluckrose has been a formidable voice in the cultural and intellectual debates surrounding critical social justice, liberalism, and free speech. I've admired her work for some time, particularly her rigorous analysis of the philosophical underpinnings of these movements. In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Helen about her new book, "The Counterweight Handbook," which offers practical strategies for those navigating the challenges posed by critical social justice ideologies in the workplace and beyond.

As with all Origins Podcasts, we spent some time learning about Helen’s own origins, which are just as compelling as her work. From her early years, where she balanced a career in care with a passion for English literature, to her later involvement in the Grievance Studies Affair, which exposed the weaknesses in certain academic fields, Helen has consistently demonstrated a concern for the wellbeing of others and a commitment to liberal values and intellectual honesty.

In our discussion, we covered the origins and evolution of critical social justice, the impact of postmodern thought on modern social theories, and the ongoing challenges of promoting free speech in an increasingly polarized world. Helen shared insights from her work with Counterweight, an organization she founded to support individuals facing ideological pressure in their professional lives. We worked through her new book, which provides remarkably useful guides for dealing with challenges that misplaced critical social justice pressures might impose upon you in the workplace and elsewhere.

This conversation was both enlightening and engaging. It offers valuable perspectives for anyone interested in the intersection of culture, politics, and philosophy. Helen is a wonderfully clear thinker, a sympathetic presence and a powerful advocate for the principles of liberalism, and it was a pleasure to spend time discussing her work and writing. I hope you find this episode as insightful and useful as I did.

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0:00.0

Hi, and welcome to the Orgence Podcast.

0:11.0

I'm your host, Lawrence Krause.

0:13.0

In this episode, I was privileged to have a dialogue with Helen Pluckrose,

0:16.0

who I wanted to have on the program for quite some time

0:19.0

and was finally able to get her on in connection

0:21.1

with the publication of her new book, The Counterweight Handbook. This is a book about critical social

0:28.2

justice and Helen has written about social justice issues and cultural issues for some time

0:35.4

and have been involved in something called the grievance

0:37.6

affairs, grievance studies affair, which we'll talk, we talk about in the dialogue, and then later on

0:43.9

wrote a book called cynical theories. And what she does very, very well is trace the philosophical

0:50.2

and sociological background of what is now called critical social justice,

0:54.8

which, as she points out, is neither critical nor essentially involve social justice.

0:59.3

And so while one can say, how could you be against social justice,

1:02.8

the recognition that critical social justice theories are really designed to be authoritarian

1:08.4

and interfere with free speech and free and free expression and due process is incredibly important.

1:16.6

And Helen actually began a program in the United Kingdom called the counterweight program to help advise people who've suffered at the job or elsewhere because of these new authoritarian rules that forbid you from

1:29.9

speaking your mind or asking questions even. And what this book does, as we discuss, is defined

1:37.7

very clearly the basis of what is now called critical social justice carefully and thoroughly, which is really her

1:45.4

trademark and a trademark of all of her writing, and one of the reasons I'm such a big fan of hers,

1:49.9

and then discusses the kind of things you can do if you find yourself in a situation, in a job,

1:55.6

where you have to pledge adherence to some political philosophy that is completely irrelevant to the carrying

2:03.9

out of your job or if you've been fired because of that for speaking out or asking questions.

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