Hello and a massive welcome to Happy Place. I'm Fern Cotton and this is the place where just shoving up is more than enough.

We don't need to be perfect here. Today I'm chatting to Helen Glover, MBE. Thank you very much.

It doesn't always have to look from the outside like this Lillia progress, like you're always seeing outcomes and results.

And I think if you can finish the day and know that you've given it your best,

even if you haven't seen through everything that you hope to achieve that day,

if you've not even given it your best, giving it a go, showing up, being there is sometimes enough.

And just kind of at some point you have to trust that you'll emerge in just that tiny bit closer to your goal. It's so much better to try and fail than to never know. How are you all

doing? I hope you're good. I really need to start Christmas shopping. I don't know what's happened to me

this year. Normally I'm so organised and I start sort of mid-October. I am in a right tis. I haven't done anything.

I've bought like two presents. I don't even know who they're for. And I keep doing that thing of

looking online and then I end up by myself a pair of trainers I don't need and nothing for anyone

else. So that's, that's becoming problematic. I'm going to get on it. I'm going to get

organised. But look, wherever you're at with it, it's all going to be fine. It's all going to come

out in the wash. We're going to be all right. We've got this. We've got this. And I am really up

for a mold wine. So that's going to help ease the pain of it all too. So on today's podcast, which I'm really excited about, because Helen is someone that I

hugely admire. She's a two-time Olympic champion, triple world champion and a quadruple

European champion in rowing. At Tokyo in 2020, Helen was the first mum to represent Great Britain

in rowing at an Olympic Games. That is a huge

moment in the history of a sport. It's massive. She's super passionate about pushing back on the

perception that age, really important one, or parenthood should be a barrier in anything

you're trying to achieve. I'm really excited for you to hear

her talk about that because it's bloody important. But the thing is, success as an elite athlete

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