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You're listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow.

Hey, Vino's real quick. If you are listening right now, which obviously you are or you

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on this podcast and making these episodes the best they can possibly be obviously for you. That's the only favorite I'm going to ever ask, okay? It truly means the world to me. Thank you. Now let's get into it. Hey, everybody, welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host. I don't know why I say I'm your host, Caitlin Bressow so every time you know who I am by this point. Buckle up. I don't even know. I'm like, buckle up for this hilarious conversation. Heather McMahon, she does not fail to make, my gut hurts, my belly hurts, my body hurts from laughing so hard. Like, I just feel like we got into everything. There's nothing we didn't talk about. It was like everything from therapy to I'm not even going to say the other things. You'd have to listen. Otherwise, I might get canceled right on the spot because you would just take this and flop it on a headline. But just listen. If you want a good belly laugh and just to feel so much better about life, listen to this podcast. I just did EMDR therapy like two hours ago. Okay. And I thought like, oh, God, how am I going to, how am I going to have energy to bring for this podcast? Have you ever done EMDR therapy? No, what is EMDR? I have to follow a blue dot on the screen and like it like triggers certain points. Wait, is this the brain mapping? They also about brain mapping. It's like that. Okay, wait, this, I've been wanting do this because my one of my girlfriends, Olivia, did it and she lives in Arkansas and she said she came to Nashville to do it. But I didn't know his, I didn't know his MDMR. She just got a brain mapping and she said it changes your life. Yeah, I've only done four sessions and I can't believe like this, it's not even small shifts that have happened it's like significant shifts

that have happened in my brain like for anger yeah oh wow i'm not like a super angry person yeah

but like certain things really irritate me that i don't want to irritate me yeah and i'm like i

want to be at peace and four sessions i've been like i feel a lot better because do you have to go home and

like wear the thing and then do the do the the things do the the the exercises yeah I mean so

the one I do because I've done one where you hold a buzzer in your hand and you like click it and

you close your eyes and your brain naturally like goes back and forth or your eyes do but this one I found this therapist that I'm obsessed with but she's in Vancouver so I have to do

this virtually yeah and it's literally just like a blue dot on the screen that I follow with my eyes

and then we'll like bring up certain feelings and then we'll dig into that and then keep going with

the dot and then yeah it keeps going deeper and deeper. Wow. And it like turns into like, like at the end,

I was like, it's not him. It's my mom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it really makes me aware of,

it's more about me. Like why am I reacting this way? What's's more like I'm not doing this more doing this my

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