I think what we are seeing is a real attempt to institute the kind of Putinization of the United States of America, if you will, in that what Trump did in Venezuela was not to overturn a government in order to install a democratically elected leader or an opposition leader.

What we saw was him extracting a leader almost just a threat to those remaining

behind to say, give me a cut, or I'm going to do something even worse. That is actually

slightly different than the United States is going to become a colonial power. That is a

personalized power that looks very much like Vladimir Putin.

As we wake up as though we are living out the lyrics of Billy Jules, we didn't start the fire.

I start my day with Heather Cox Richardson.

Since the first time she appeared on The Best People podcast, I've had Ken Burns and other world-renowned historians,

authors, actors, politicians, government leaders, economists, titans of business, tell me they start their day the very same way. So when we woke up to what felt like a new world order,

we knew we had to have her back this week. An encore performance

for our own personal democracy rock star, Heather Cox Richardson is back with us. Thank you so much

for saying yes. It's such a pleasure to be with you always. It's so cool that we have had one

conversation because now I can forever associate myself with you.

When you come up, I can say, oh, I interviewed her for the best people podcast.

You are not just one of the best people that we've had a chance to talk to.

You really are this voice that cuts through.

And you do cut across every single kind of person I come in contact with.

Everyone is listening to you.

And so when you have this analysis, like what you've had over the last seven days, I just have to

hit pause and lift it up and make sure everyone hears the things you're saying. So I wonder we can

just go through really the recent events and the things you've written and try to pull you through

the moment we're living in with Donald Trump's. I don't even know what to call it,

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