Hello and a warm welcome to late night women's hour where we turn the temperature up on the stories that matter, and I should say anything goes.

Joining me around the table today on this merry romp through news and views, neuroscientist Sophie Scott, space scientist and broadcaster Maggie Adamin Pocock, and barrister Samantha Davis.

Welcome to all of you. Thank you for being here.

Sophie, can we

start with women and heart attacks, which isn't the most joyous headline to begin with, but why

has this caught your eye? Well, it's been kind of rumbling along for a couple of years now. There was

an article published pointing out. It was written by a woman who'd fallen very sick and kind of

blew around the lips as soon as she got flu, gone to bed, and her husband was sufficiently worried that he called an ambulance.

And she was in a full-blown heart attack.

And we have an idea in our heads that heart attacks are things that happen to men,

and they kind of clutch at their chests and fall to the ground, although in fact that isn't normally even what happens to men. But heart attacks are as likely to happen to women, and in fact they kill more women, because the symptoms are often somewhat different in women.

They are frequently misdiagnosed, and if they're correctly diagnosed, they don't necessarily get the right treatment.

More women die in hospital after a heart attack than men. What are they seeing on a woman that they expect to see on a man there?

Well, that they're not men is the first thing. So we have a strong cultural belief.

That heart attacks a thing, yeah. It's often the way, isn't it? I'd see what was wrong here,

you were not a man. But it's we we have a cultural belief that

heart attacks are something that happen to men and they do happen to men i'm not saying men don't

have a horrible time with heart attacks but because we construe them as a thing that happens to men

that's our stereotype of them even if it's happening in front of you you will not necessarily

realize that that's what that this is what's happening to the woman you, you will not necessarily realize that this is

what's happening to the woman. And of course, also, it doesn't help that sometimes, as I say,

the symptoms are different. But women make up half the world. If they're having symptoms of heart

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